Freedom of expression/association?

[thingstocome]

"A teenager will appear in an Australian court next month charged with sending a text message which police say incited others to take part in a riot at Cronulla, in Sydney.

Police say the S-M-S was sent simultaneously to two recipients and encouraged them to meet at the beach on an undisclosed day and join in violence.

They say the 15 year-old boy was arrested on Wednesday after extensive investigations by local Police.

He's been charged with inciting crimes. "
(http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/news/stories/s2119635.htm)

and this:

"A text message inviting people to gather at Cronulla for a day of violence has been intercepted by police.

The message, which police said incited people to take part in a riot at Cronulla some time this week, was sent to two people on Tuesday night.

On Wednesday police arrested and charged a 15-year-old youth in relation to the text message. He was charged with inciting crime and is due to face Sutherland Childrens Court on January 15.

Cronulla, south of Sydney, was the location of race-fuelled riots in December 2005 which saw an outbreak of public disorder and led to the expansion of police powers."
(http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/teen-charged-after-cronulla-riot-call/2007/12/15/1197568304240.html)

what do you think?

[agentsaboteur]

i think the key difference between freedom of expression/association when comparing the left to the right is pretty significant and speaks for itself. The right uses oppressive means to get what they want by violently enforcing their ideology on others rather than debating it logically (mind you the far right has nothing logical to debate in the first place) which is what sets them apart from other groups. What specifically sets anarchists apart from members of the far right is that anarchists seek equality for all and that they're is no authoritarian structure by which we live, where as the far right believes in racial superiority and that absolute power is to be given to one person (or a select minority) and their eutopian vision comes from waging a race war against all who arnt hetrosexual anglo saxons that are submissive to their authority. Nazis are exempt from freedom of expression because what they preech is oppressive hatred, not intellectual discussion.

Back to the specific topic, it seems to me this ignorant youth has probably been watching too much Romper Stomper, however i think its quite strange that this plan was masterminded by a 15 year old. Something doesnt add up in all this...

[gabs]

I don't like the miniluv manner in which he was caught.. because it just goes to show that when the time comes, bam, they do it to us.

Intellectual or hatred, the extremes they went to, to catch him are ridiculous. Besides, if he's 15 now, was he 13 then?
Or was this news from the time?

True though, acts of hatred can't be tolerated.
In conclusion.
If they found him out because one of the people that got the message dobbed him in, then i'm cool with that.
But if they went through his phone records and ditched any priviledge of privacy he might have, then that's not cool.
But i like the way he was caught, but however they decide to punish him.. is just stupid because we all know that no penal system is gonna fix any situation.
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[molotovhearts]

From what I read in the two articles, he wasn't actually the one who wrote the message and was passing it on.

If that's something that needed clearing up....

[chris]

Im all for racists getting pinched but don't the coppers have anything better to do besides arrest little kids for sending messages?

One of these days your gonna be felling hungry and your gonna sms your mate something like "lets hit up maccas @ 1" BAM! SIRENS! Black suits. Unmarked van. Your under arrest.

[agentsaboteur]

chris said:

Im all for racists getting pinched but don't the coppers have anything better to do besides arrest little kids for sending messages?

One of these days your gonna be felling hungry and your gonna sms your mate something like "lets hit up maccas @ 1" BAM! SIRENS! Black suits. Unmarked van. Your under arrest.

............................lol

anyone that eats at mcdonalds rightfully deserves to get nicked