Post by gabs on Jan 24, 2008 14:25:50 GMT 10
Hokkay, so here we get a lovely example of instead of the man going in, sorting out the problems at a grassroots level here, they'd prefer to do fuck all, and just call in riot squad to unleash a wash of violent repression.
Instead of just educating both groups of people about each other a little so they can see that they're the same, they're just going to beat both sides into submission.
DON'T THESE PEOPLE THINK?
ohh wait.. no.
anywho read on.
Now after all that; how about idea's on trying to deal with racism and prejudice and biggotry in general even.
What do you think about Violent and Non-Violent actions to do with this?
I don't think open street warfare would solve anything. In Europe sure alot of fascists get put in hospital by antifa, but alot of antifa get put in hospital by pigs.
Self defence is of course another thing.
But attacking fascists won't defeat their cause, because you're not killing them so they "live to fight another day." I'm not saying i condone killing people. But it'll give them a reason to fight, it makes it personal even, then once something is personal it's emotional, and that crap can make people do a whole bunch of crazy shite.
But what about non-violent alternatives? i'm not even sure what they'd be..
maybe something similar to the actions against sexual assault... stuff that makes people think about prejudice and racism.
hmm, time to let some thoughts bubble away!
xx
Instead of just educating both groups of people about each other a little so they can see that they're the same, they're just going to beat both sides into submission.
DON'T THESE PEOPLE THINK?
ohh wait.. no.
anywho read on.
Cops not keen on neo-Nazi rallies
(from Fight Dem Back site)
From the SMH:
Riot squad will stop Australia Day rallies
Angela Cuming
January 20, 2008
THE riot squad will be on stand-by on Australia Day to prevent Cronulla-style violence erupting at hot spots around Sydney, including Camden.
Racial tensions are running high in the semi-rural town, which has fuelled anti-Muslim sentiment after far-right-wing groups and politicians joined locals to fight plans for an Islamic school.
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Soon after plans for the school were announced, pigs’ heads on stakes and an Australian flag were left on the planned school site. A crucifix with Bible passages written on it also appeared.
Locals, especially teenagers, wear T-shirts with Australian flags printed on them, while bumper stickers featuring the Southern Cross and “No Muslim school for Camden” adorn cars.
NSW Police said the public order riot squad would be ready to deal with any trouble on Saturday.
Australia Day operation commander Assistant Commissioner Frank Mennilli said people deserved to celebrate the day without the threat of bullying or harassment.
“I would be disappointed if anyone tried to exploit community celebrations on Australia Day for their own purpose,” he said. “Anyone who acts inappropriately or breaks the laws will be dealt with by police.”
The warning comes after reports that white supremacist groups, including Australia First, have planned a rally at the proposed Camden school site on the national holiday.
It has also been reported that similar rallies have been planned for the north-western suburb of Annangrove, which was the site of anti-Muslim protests when a prayer hall was built, and Cronulla, the scene of race riots in 2005.
Hundreds of people “demonstrated” at the beachside suburb on December 11, 2005, yelling racist chants, and chasing and bashing people of Middle Eastern appearance. An ambulance crew and police were also targeted. Twenty-five people were injured; two were stabbed in apparent revenge attacks.
It is understood the Anzac cenotaph in Hyde Park has also been considered a protest site.
Assistant Commissioner Mennilli confirmed police had been in talks with community leaders in Camden to “identify local issues”.
“Local police have met regularly with local council and residents’ groups to facilitate planning to ensure that Australia Day celebrations run smoothly,” he said.
“We recognise everyone has a right to an opinion and to voice that opinion, but police will respond immediately to anyone who thinks they can step outside the law to express those opinions with anti-social actions.
“As with any day when large groups of people gather, police will have a presence and we will ensure police will do their job so people can take this chance to celebrate.”
Last December a large protest, organised by the Reverend Fred Nile’s Christian Democratic Party, was held in Camden.
(from Fight Dem Back site)
From the SMH:
Riot squad will stop Australia Day rallies
Angela Cuming
January 20, 2008
THE riot squad will be on stand-by on Australia Day to prevent Cronulla-style violence erupting at hot spots around Sydney, including Camden.
Racial tensions are running high in the semi-rural town, which has fuelled anti-Muslim sentiment after far-right-wing groups and politicians joined locals to fight plans for an Islamic school.
Read the rest of this entry… »
Soon after plans for the school were announced, pigs’ heads on stakes and an Australian flag were left on the planned school site. A crucifix with Bible passages written on it also appeared.
Locals, especially teenagers, wear T-shirts with Australian flags printed on them, while bumper stickers featuring the Southern Cross and “No Muslim school for Camden” adorn cars.
NSW Police said the public order riot squad would be ready to deal with any trouble on Saturday.
Australia Day operation commander Assistant Commissioner Frank Mennilli said people deserved to celebrate the day without the threat of bullying or harassment.
“I would be disappointed if anyone tried to exploit community celebrations on Australia Day for their own purpose,” he said. “Anyone who acts inappropriately or breaks the laws will be dealt with by police.”
The warning comes after reports that white supremacist groups, including Australia First, have planned a rally at the proposed Camden school site on the national holiday.
It has also been reported that similar rallies have been planned for the north-western suburb of Annangrove, which was the site of anti-Muslim protests when a prayer hall was built, and Cronulla, the scene of race riots in 2005.
Hundreds of people “demonstrated” at the beachside suburb on December 11, 2005, yelling racist chants, and chasing and bashing people of Middle Eastern appearance. An ambulance crew and police were also targeted. Twenty-five people were injured; two were stabbed in apparent revenge attacks.
It is understood the Anzac cenotaph in Hyde Park has also been considered a protest site.
Assistant Commissioner Mennilli confirmed police had been in talks with community leaders in Camden to “identify local issues”.
“Local police have met regularly with local council and residents’ groups to facilitate planning to ensure that Australia Day celebrations run smoothly,” he said.
“We recognise everyone has a right to an opinion and to voice that opinion, but police will respond immediately to anyone who thinks they can step outside the law to express those opinions with anti-social actions.
“As with any day when large groups of people gather, police will have a presence and we will ensure police will do their job so people can take this chance to celebrate.”
Last December a large protest, organised by the Reverend Fred Nile’s Christian Democratic Party, was held in Camden.
Now after all that; how about idea's on trying to deal with racism and prejudice and biggotry in general even.
What do you think about Violent and Non-Violent actions to do with this?
I don't think open street warfare would solve anything. In Europe sure alot of fascists get put in hospital by antifa, but alot of antifa get put in hospital by pigs.
Self defence is of course another thing.
But attacking fascists won't defeat their cause, because you're not killing them so they "live to fight another day." I'm not saying i condone killing people. But it'll give them a reason to fight, it makes it personal even, then once something is personal it's emotional, and that crap can make people do a whole bunch of crazy shite.
But what about non-violent alternatives? i'm not even sure what they'd be..
maybe something similar to the actions against sexual assault... stuff that makes people think about prejudice and racism.
hmm, time to let some thoughts bubble away!
xx
